{"id":3609,"date":"2019-12-03T14:42:45","date_gmt":"2019-12-03T14:42:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/?p=3609"},"modified":"2020-10-09T23:25:34","modified_gmt":"2020-10-09T23:25:34","slug":"interview-with-joel-fishbane","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/2019\/12\/03\/interview-with-joel-fishbane\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Joel Fishbane"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-circle-mask\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-thumbnail\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/joel_fishbane-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5162\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Joel Fishbane discusses &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/2019\/11\/26\/doctor-time\/\">doctor time<\/a>,&#8221;  the story&#8217;s evolution and theme about finding balance in the aftermath of loss, and the work of being a writer.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n<!--noteaser-->\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-circle-mask\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-thumbnail\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/joel_fishbane-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5162\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/joel-fishbane\/\">Joel Fishbane<\/a> is a novelist, playwright, and screenwriter. His novel \u201cThe Thunder of Giants\u201d is available from St. Martin\u2019s Press while new short fiction will appear in upcoming editions of\u00a0<em>New England Review, Litbreak,\u00a0<\/em>and<em>\u00a0Shift.<\/em>\u00a0He is currently pursuing an MFA in Creative Writing at the University of British Columbia. Find out more at\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.joelfishbane.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.joelfishbane.net<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What was the inspiration for \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/2019\/11\/26\/doctor-time\/\">doctor time<\/a>\u201d? How did the story develop\/change from conception to completion?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been writing this story for a\nlong time so I don&#8217;t remember the original spark of inspiration. I do remember\nit was originally a piece of flash fiction focused on Jackson Pope but I liked\nthe character so much that I just kept writing. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How did the Young Doctor \u2013 the narrator \u2013 first form in your imagination? Was there a pivotal moment, in the course of writing the story, where you discovered something unexpected about him? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since the original story was\nfocused on Jackson Pope, the Young Doctor was originally a secondary character.\nDuring this period, I read an essay on dementia and the debate over whether\nit&#8217;s better to correct patients or let them enjoy their delusions. This got me\nthinking more about the Young Doctor and I shifted the focus of the story.\nFinding his voice was the biggest challenge since it&#8217;s written in first person.\nI didn&#8217;t want him to sound like a &#8220;writer&#8221; since he&#8217;s a doctor, so I\ntried to avoid flowery passages. He also doesn&#8217;t sound like my own narrative\nvoice &#8211; he&#8217;s very serious and my own narrative voice often incorporates a wry\nor humorous tone. Finding his voice was the pivotal moment and it really helped\nme start to figure him out as a character. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Both the Young Doctor and Jackson Pope struggle with the conflict of confronting or admitting loss weighed against the need to avoid or even to forget it. What interested you in exploring these ideas through this particular story? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Losing things is part of the human\ncondition and while I&#8217;ve had my share of it, I&#8217;m fortunate that I haven&#8217;t had\nto deal with it to the same the extent as Jackson Pope and the Young Doctor. But\nI&#8217;ve long been fascinated by the two sides of grief &#8211; the need to honor those\nwho are gone with the need to put them aside so we can carry on with our own\nlives. Finding this balance can be especially difficult when the loss is\ntragic, as it is for Jackson and the Young Doctor. I was also interested in the\nconflict for the Young Doctor &#8211; we have a man who can&#8217;t give up the past\nconfronted with a patient who has lost it and I think he envies Jackson in some\nways because Jackson has been allowed to forget. The whole point, though, is\nthat forgetting isn&#8217;t any better than obsession. We&#8217;re always looking for ways\nto live with the past without letting it consume us. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How would you describe your writing and revision process? What have you found to be most helpful for you when dealing with writer\u2019s block?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I love rewriting so I generally\nwrite many drafts and I like to give myself lots of time between them. Time\naway helps me &#8220;forget&#8221; the draft so I can go back to it with a fresh\neye. It helps that I usually have a few projects on the go and I write in\ndifferent mediums (I&#8217;m also a playwright and screenwriter). Writer&#8217;s block,\nwhen it comes, is always a sign that I need to step away. Sometimes I just nap\nor read or get lost online for a while. I also try to shake up the story I&#8217;m\nwriting. Changing relationships is often a good way to come at a story from a\ndifferent angle since it raises the emotional stakes. In the case of\n&#8220;doctor time&#8221;, for instance, there were early drafts when Jackson\nPope and the Young Doctor weren&#8217;t connected through Nia. When I realized that\nJackson and Nia could be father and daughter, the entire story came into\nsharper focus. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What\u2019s the most valuable piece of advice you\u2019ve received as a writer and what advice would you give new writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s a sketch called &#8220;Studies of the Virgin and Child&#8221; by Michelangelo\u2019s assistant, Antonio Mini. On it, Michelangelo was unsparing in his critique: &#8220;Draw, Antonio. Draw and don&#8217;t waste time.&#8221; I always thought this was pretty good advice, regardless of one&#8217;s artistic pursuit. I interpret this as not wasting time on projects you don&#8217;t believe in or things you aren&#8217;t truly passionate about. There&#8217;s a myth of the writer sitting down and having it all pour out of them in one sitting but the truth is it&#8217;s work like any other. So you just have to do it and, no, it won&#8217;t always be perfect, but you can&#8217;t get to the great ideas if you don&#8217;t slog through the bad ones first. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What are you currently reading? What book has been most influential on your life or on you as a writer?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I usually read a lot of different things at once, so right now I&#8217;m reading a biography on Edward Albee, short stories by John Updike, and &#8220;Passing&#8221; by Nella Larsen. I&#8217;d say there hasn&#8217;t been one book which is influential but my influences are varied because I&#8217;ve studied theatre and film as well as literature. The influential writers are some of the usual suspects &#8211; Shakespeare, Chekhov &#8211; with some modern writers &#8211; John Irving, Gabriel Garcia Marquez &#8211; thrown in. Lately, I&#8217;ve been reading a lot of Roxane Gay. I love seeing what other writers are doing, regardless of what genre or the particular form.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joel Fishbane discusses &ldquo;doctor time,&rdquo; the story&rsquo;s evolution and theme about finding balance in the aftermath of loss, and the work of being a writer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3609","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interview"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3609"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3609"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3609\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5223,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3609\/revisions\/5223"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3609"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3609"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/87bedford.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3609"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}